I can’t remember the last time a staff forum post caused so much angst. Asking members to vote for iRacing on Steam’s Project Greenlight sure brought-out some opinions. It seems as if members are either very much for it or very much against it. I can’t understand why you would be against it, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.


The whole reason we added iRacing to Project Greenlight was to try and reach new people (presuming we can get Greenlit). We have no plans to change the way things work here at iRacing. We still plan to handle purchases and updates through our site – we think we have developed a pretty good system! While we don’t know exactly how Steam integration would work – we need to have some conversations with Steam first – we do envision it working in a way that would make it easy for new people to sign up for iRacing through Steam. Once they are members, they would get their updates directly through us, or through Steam if they prefer. So for all existing members there would be absolutely no change to the way things work presently except for one small thing . . . .

. . . . there would be more iRacers! This is good for everyone involved with iRacing. More racers means more people signing-up to race. The splits would be better, the racing would be better and we (iRacing) can continue to develop the title. All of the features you keep asking about take time and money to create, and more customers certainly helps with the latter.

With literally millions of users, Steam could introduce iRacing to many new racers.

With literally millions of users, Steam could introduce iRacing to many new racers.

All this talk about “Bringing-in the wrong type of people” is ridiculous. What kind of people do you want? I want people who are passionate about racing and racing games, have a PC and Internet connection and maybe already have a racing wheel. Will any of the new members join and immediately be ready for the World Championship series? Probably not, but let’s face it, most of you are not either (present company included). Will they make rookie mistakes in the rookie races? You betcha. Will they ask rookie questions in the forums? Sure. Will they not follow the sporting code to the letter on day one? Absolutely. Any of this sound familiar? I bet it describes most of us. None of us are perfect and all of us have made mistakes on iRacing. Most of us have learned from them and gotten better. So what makes you think these potential new iRacers would be any different?

All I’m asking is to be open to the idea that there are many more PC gamers out there that would find iRacing interesting and fun to compete in. We just want to reach out to them and let them know where to find us.

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About Kevin Bobbitt

Kevin Bobbitt is the Director of Marketing at iRacing.com. He has been with iRacing since 2007 and is a long time marketing professional bringing more than 16 years of experience in both online and offline consumer marketing to the job. Kevin's commitment to iRacing starts with his passion for motorsports. He is a fan of anything powered by an engine. When not racing on iRacing or watching a race on TV he can likely be found at the track or an autocross site in his Porsche 944S2. Kevin is also the commissioner, punisher and all around rule maker for the Rennsport Racing League run on iRacing. Kevin resides in New Hampshire with his wife and two boys.


Steam is a great gaming community and agent. Many of the games that I play already are steam powered. You can only win being a steam client. It costs nothing to join, has great support people, and would bring tons of new people to I-racing. Can’t lose.

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:38 am

I don’t understand why you have to jump through the hoops, why don’t they just add it already?

Steve Smith Jr
April 2nd, 2013 at 9:42 am

I’m sorry to say it. This will most definitely bring in the wrong type of people!

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am

My only concerns are the following. First, that being on Steam too early without enough polish (both graphically and in the tire model) could result in bad first impressions with no opportunity to make a second impression, and that perhaps waiting for a few months to get a more stable product would be more beneficial. Second, that we’ve not received updates on the statistics for the protest system Shannon promised us half a year ago, and neither we nor new members have any assurance that protests are still functioning effectively.

April 2nd, 2013 at 10:07 am

Steam is where I play many racing games and there is a host of racers and wannabes who would enjoy the camaraderie of Iracing! I would hope we would want them to join the community and learn the ropes of this incredible experience!

Leo Bakersmith
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am

The wrong type of people?
iRacing needs to fill some splits, Im ready for new people, have you even looked at the splits on a high SOF night, its the same people in 4 splits each week. Do you really think 100 people across the world is all their is with skills? Pathetic. Anything that brings in THOUSANDS of people would be great. The iR and SR system keeps the “wrong” people out of the way.

Morgan S
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am

Not sure when you say it will bring more people to iRacing. iRacing is already world know and those who are passionate about racing, knows about it and has already joined. My experience with Steam is the downloads are slow and I get tired of having to update their client every update they have. I am all for having better splits and racers, but going to Steam, to me doesn’t make sense and may bring in the XBox racer types who do not take racing seriously. I see ratings doing down when these type get involved. I have been racing this sim since the very first version of NASCAR racing back in the day. Seen things good and bad.

Paul “Krum” Krumrei
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:12 am

What exactly are the “wrong” kind of people? How can that statement be made without the realization that it is nothing less than an elitist, private club mentality that has no place in the open world that iRacing has created. If a person wants that kind of control over who they are racing, then creating a private league where membership can be restricted is where you belong. iRacing is not some elitist club where only those who are the most hardcore of hardcore sim racers belong. It is a place that opens the world of sim racing and online sim racing to the world, literally. Kevin makes the excellent point that more members means more racers and more resources for iRacing to continue growth and improvements to the product. How can that possibly be a bad thing?

Jim Panknin
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:13 am

I must agree here with Christian, Yes i can see it growing the community and bringing more competition, But yes this will also bring a whole lot of drama and non simulator drivers who just like to wreck. Also causing a alot of frustration for those who pay there subscription to race among the best and create a name for themselves such as myself.

Ashley Dodgson
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:18 am

I have to agree with the folks who think this will bring in the wrong type of racer. I myself am a steam user, but not by choice. I had a few games whose developers sold out to Steam, so it was keep playing through Steam or stop playing altogether. That being said, I also feel that the majority of people who we may gain through Steam will be the “gamer” types, not the “racer”. I race IRacing for the REALISM it offers. The people you will find through steam, for the most part, are only looking for the “fun factor”, something you might get with one of EA’s crappy racing “games”. IRacing is NOT a game, it is a “simulator”. And that is not what the type of gamer you find through Steam is going to be looking for. They will be looking for something along the lines of NASCAR-The Game. Or Inside Line…or whatever garbage EA has thrown out lately. And in the meantime, it is the true Iracers who will have to put up with the hit’s in their rating due to incidents caused by these rookies who for the most part won’t really care what wrecking someone does to their stats. Just my 2 cents.

John Mustian
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:32 am

I’ve been on Steam since January of 2005 and I’ve found it to be a good distribution center. Saying that it will bring in “The wrong type of people.” just reeks of ‘Elitism’ and ‘Discrimination’. I have posted on Steam (DadDog) responses to some of the uninformed and some just plain ignorant posts by some there concerning this. Some of the most critical comes from Steam members whose ‘Favorites’ are racing games that don’t even compare to iRacings stature and one guy who was posting critical posts had Image Space Incorporated as his profile picture….funny and removed by Steam. I don’t see how anyone who complains about not having enough members or getting in enough races could be against this, bring them in, educate them, help them understand that real sim racing isn’t about crashing or running over things to ‘Power up’, it can be a most satisfying hobby a great way to meet like minded people who think online sim racing can be serious and fun at the same time.

William Kabela
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:38 am

I’m all for it! For those in doubt: iRacing is tough. If you want to get better and enjoy what the service has to offer, you stay. The new members that will eventually be brought in (whether they’re from Steam or not) will always struggle in the beginning. If things prove too difficult, they’ll probably just give up and leave. But thats the exact thing that makes iRacing so great – it’s always a challenge. And when you succeed, it’s feels absolutely fantastic.

I expected the complete opposite response from the community. I mean… racing nowadays has so much to do with progressing forward with technology and trying out new things, (admittedly, they may not always work if you haven’t tried) but you wouldn’t know that if you didn’t try in the first place.)

Only the best for the people at iRacing. =)

Luka Anicic
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:42 am

You can’t be on Steam without leveraging Steam features, and then expect to get a good word in the various social media and discussion networks that the gaming community entails. You will be ridiculed by the masses.

Updates NEED to come through Steam, myRacers NEED to be converted to the Steam Friend List (for those who want) and you NEED to be able to buy your cars and tracks via Steam, and not have to use a browser (or even secondary log in, though I guess that is completely out of the question).

April 2nd, 2013 at 10:43 am

Steam will provide a great opportunity for iRacing to expand outward. Greenlight it!

Paul Cline
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:45 am

We want people who enjoy racing enough to come to iRacing. Putting it on steam exposes it to thousands of keyboard racers who play games like Nascar The Game: Inside line and think its a sim. I don’t really care the official stuff got to be too much so I only race leagues anymore anyways. I feel about the same way with this as I do touch screen controls.

Mac P.
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:45 am

I have games through Steam and am able to enjoy the environment that has been built and fosters good gentleman like racing.

Anything that brings more members, delivers expedited development and possibly lowers my subscription costs through greater scale, I for one applaud

However like all things in life it can’t be all things to all men/women

Keep up the good work

April 2nd, 2013 at 10:47 am

About “First impression”… Steam virtual shelves, unlike Walmart’s, has peer’s reviews. Forums. Screenshots. Links. Stuff that INFORMS people BEFORE they BUY.

Steam users that buy the game even though they read “the graphics are shite!!!111” and “you can’t have a huge garage full of cars unless you pay thousands bucks” will NOT feel cheated : unlike most current members, they will probably know what they’re getting into before actually getting into it.

April 2nd, 2013 at 10:49 am

I don’t care if it goes to Steam but what I do care about are Keyboard, joystick, and touch pad racers killing the realism for everyone.

Just 2 nights ago I was one race away from moving up in my C licenses to D when I decided to run the Miata race at Summit Point. I started 3rd and got wrecked out on the first lap by someone swerving on the track. The guy came on laughing saying he was using his keyboard and that he had wrecked out of most every race he had tried because of how hard it was to steer the car. He thought it was funny and was having a blast but my points got killed big time. I have had to walk away from iracing the past 2 day because I was so pissed at the points I just lost because someone was having a blast.

If Iracing moves to Steam you will get new racers but 90% will be Keyboard, joystick, and touch pad users because that’s what they (and I) use for gaming. Non wheel users in a racing simulator kills the simulation for the rest of us.

If you made a game like Call of Duty would you program the game to allow players to play with a racing wheel?

If not then why would you allow someone to play a racing simulator with a game controller or keyboard?

Steam wont kill Iracing the keyboards and controllers from Steam will.

Chad B.
April 2nd, 2013 at 11:36 am

I think that after a trial, only the Real interested Will continue play. We all Know iracing is not easy, and after a short period we Will have dedicated gamers still playing and the other Will leave. So it can be only a good thing iracing on steam

April 2nd, 2013 at 11:52 am

WOW! I’m pretty sure if I worked for I-racing I would be banging my head against a wall right now.
Adding I-racing to steam is a purely win – win situation, there is pretty much no negative to this occurring and I struggle to understand the thinking behind many of the comments that suggest new subscribers from steam will wreck the game.
For instance, the rules of I-racing will apply to all new subbers regardless of where they came from, so they will all start in rookie, so how exactly will these supposed wreckers ruin anyone’s I-rating who is not still in the rookie series? – Answer, they cant. All that can happen is that more people are exposed to the best racing sim available, meaning more racers in each race and more money in I-racing’s coffers for further development of the game….isn’t that what we all want? – I sure do!

April 2nd, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Let iracing’s safety rating do the talking and welcome to the sim world all need for speed guys.

April 2nd, 2013 at 12:42 pm

I am passionated about anything related to cars, racing games, simulators, but I never heard about Iracing in my live since about 2 weeks ago when I start looking for it! Even though I have a G27 and a modest computer, I never gave a chance to iracing because I have never heard about it.

This is your problem: you are not advertising your product to your potencial public! At least, if you are doing that, you are not doing it correctly! Change this and you will have more people signing up.

April 2nd, 2013 at 1:38 pm

Personally I don’t really see the point. All it does is let someone become a member of iRacing through Steam but they would still have to use the website to use the sim. I’m pretty confident that you are overestimating the number of new people you can reach through Steam. Having iRacing on the front page of the store would ensure millions would see it sure but the overwhelming majority I think would think “racing game, pass”. The people who would be interested are the people who enjoy racing games and I think most already know about iRacing. The cost is what’s stopping them from becoming members.

If you do get Greenlit though, you better make sure your store page is clear about the cost of this sim and not just say “dozens of cars and tracks to race!” or you’ll suffer the same sort of disaster WarZ did.

April 2nd, 2013 at 1:47 pm

I’m surprised when you say you’re not sure how the integration would work with Steam? Shouldn’t that be worked out in advance? No problem with getting our name out to the widest possible audience, but seeing things like iRacing enabled with pads and mice, is not a good thing in my opinion. Getting enough of those racers might tip the balance for iRacing to become more arcade like. What happens when they start to say, “it’s too hard to race with a pad, give us some assists.” That to me, is a worse case scenario.

John G. Hill
April 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 pm

As a core sim racer who sampled the service. Will say you need more people at the entry level racing. I joined to find the racing at low levels under populated and not a lot of fun. Could have stuck around to level up etc, but just knew that once I did break through to the higher levels, was going to be frustrated by the lack of a decent racing cockpit. You might also want to consider a reduced rate for rookies not competing in the elite classes. Tough to justify a monthly expense when you know eventually you will get to a point where a seasoned sim racer in his comfy cockpit is always going to have the ability to be more consistent than a guy with a wheel, basic peddles and a Folding tray table? The service is kind of prone to elitism, mostly based on the equipment you own to play it with, I wanted to get I to it, just didn’t seem like it would be fun until I had as sophisticated equipment as the next guy I am racing. At the upper levels. I am sure it is difficult to compete without a dedicated cockpit and load cell brake and triple monitors etc. Without a healthy influx of new racers to have fun competing against, I really don’t see a need to play Iracing until I have a cockpit that will allow me to play it at the elite level that I assume most of its customer base is aiming for. So I would approve of green lighting it. People that don’t get the Sim Aspect of it are not going to continue to pay a monthly service fee to drive terribly and embarrass themselves. Why not let the filters Iracing put in place do their job. They seem to work to me.

April 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 pm

I just don’t like the idea of having to go through Steam to launch IRacing like you do with all Steam games. Just 1 more thing running in the background.

April 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 pm

The more the merry I say. Sure there will be issues, but in the end it will add more racers. A larger community will only add to the total experience. The subscription service will keep all those away who are “only checking it out” and there are mechanisms in place to control those not serious about SIM play. More racers = more fun.

April 2nd, 2013 at 3:38 pm

I’m definitely all for it. I want more races to go official and I want more races full. We might even get more frequent races. I know there are a few categories I’d like to race in but races for them just aren’t held often enough, and when they are, they are usually unofficial in my timezone (Australia).

Rob Gray
April 2nd, 2013 at 4:34 pm

I can’t imagine it will bring in many new racers that will stay with the brand, my imagining is there will be an influx of people that buy a 1 month sub just to see what iRacing is about. I believe that can only be a good thing though, hopefully more money means more content for the rest of us that remain with iRacing(hopefully cheaper too). Rookie classes are always going to be demolition derbies(ovals mainly) that is the nature of “rookies”. This is a hardcore sim, and the people with the interest in it already know about it. It’s not going to ruin it for any existing racers, how could it. Unless you are a career rookie that is!!

Grant Crowe
April 2nd, 2013 at 4:49 pm

I am 100% for getting iRacing on Steam, though I agree with some of the comments about timing. You’ll never get to the perfect time since there’s always stuff that’s almost ready, but I do see a case for getting the base content (graphics, etc) updated to the current standard before a big reveal like this, if it can be done in a reasonable amount of time. If not, just put it on Steam and do the update later. You still get the increased visibility that iRacing needs.

As for “the wrong type of people”, a lot of the people on Steam would be the wrong type. These are the ones who might jump into GT5 and drive backwards, or join a Call of Duty game just to shoot teammates. They can be found in any multi-player game. I think these types would quickly get bored of iRacing, get protested and booted, or at least get stuck in the Rookie series.

Steam would also bring in a lot of the right type of people, and they might even have a wheel and a nice gaming PC already.

Sean W.
April 3rd, 2013 at 1:55 am

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April 3rd, 2013 at 7:04 am

More iRacers is a good thing. Maybe the percentage of Steam users getting to A Class or the DWC will be lower, but Safety Rating, iRating, Splits and the License progression will sort it all out. The racers that bubble up to D class and above will be welcome by me.

Rookies that realize it isn’t for them…. We might have a few more “iRacing Sucks” threads, but serious iRacers don’t inhabit the lower split Rookie races. Long term iRacing will gain more D class and above racers, which is a good thing.

April 3rd, 2013 at 1:53 pm

Do it!… These negative comments are absurd and I’ve used Steam for years … This thing doesn’t even have a GUI yet get with the times or continue being the best sim nobody plays or has even heard of

I talked with a NASCAR fan the other day who’s been watching it since he was a kid. Never even heard of iRacing and probably assumed those official NASCARcade games are all that’s out there, this is the problem ….

April 3rd, 2013 at 3:35 pm

The people who say that it will “bring the wrong crowd” apparently didn’t see the poll I posted where 90% of current iRacers are also current or previous Steam users.

If Steam users are the “wrong crowd” then it’s too late… we’re already here!

April 3rd, 2013 at 6:35 pm

why do people think the average steam user is some braindead team killing skumbag?

thats not my experience.

and the control worry is valid, but thats fixable my iracing, just pile on some aids and predictive code for keyboard and gamepad users, make rookie 2 levels (so hosted races can let in experieced rookies)

and any bad apples would get mired in rookie level anyways.

and saying people will try it and leave, how many of us stumped up for a entire year blindly? a introduction to iracing is a introduction to racing crack :p.

steams the biggest storefront for gaming, its very odd to not want to be there.

paul menard
April 3rd, 2013 at 10:22 pm

I have just tried to vote for iRacing on Steam in order to show support for my favourite sim. Unfortunately after a lot of messing about creating an account and a log in etc it then wouldn’t let me vote without buying a game on Steam first!

Well, sorry iRacing but I tried. Guess they do this so that only ‘real’ steam users can vote. Perhaps you could mention this somewhere to save others wasting 20 minutes of their time like I have!

R. Stewart
April 4th, 2013 at 10:01 am

Well said and can’t agree more.
This is why we have the rating system if you are concerned about the “wrong type” of racer. Ignorant to think this way.
Money is needed to develop.
Put iRacing on Steam. Do it

Bruce Morse
April 4th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

I think the fears are completely unfounded (which is nothing new, how many times have people exclaim that some new feature or change in the service was going to lead to iRacing’s demise?). Why would anyone not want more members? Let’s do it and get more folks hooked!

April 4th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

The concerns to be on steam are completely unsubstantiated. First, in regards to polish. The game is already amazingly polished and light years above what most new-comers have ever experienced.

Second, it will NOT bring in a lot of people who simply want to wreck. Do you honestly think anyone is going to invest the type of money that iracing requires, simply to troll on it? Not going to happen. Plus, if they did, they would be dealt with accordingly.

As noted in the post, more customers = more money which leads to more and better features for everyone.

April 7th, 2013 at 6:52 pm

Target audience, Gamers, or Racers?

Readers should be mindful that steam gamers coming to iRacing would be the same thing as if real racetracks allowed ‘anyone’ to turn up and drive in ‘anything’.

There are costs, rules and standards set before either are allowed on track. Drives agree to these.

Rookies have a place on the race track as much as veterans do.

April 8th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

Like one said before about touchpad and kweyboard racers are wreckers on iracing Just eliminate the possibility off keyboard/mouse/touchpad controllers and put it on steam np I personally hate steam but if u can expand with serious ppl i say go for it.

April 9th, 2013 at 8:03 am

I have a Act labs Force Rs wheel, when it was new it cost a TON… I have the shifter, clutch etc… Will this work on this racing platform ? I want to join, just not sure if I have the correct gear yet… I have been a sim racer for YEARS, have ALL the NASCAR pc games, GRAND PRIX LEDGENDS, f1, grand am racing games, I love the realism on these games, however, as I said, I’ve been away for YEARS due to injury and operations. Heck I was a Computer tech when I went out, now not even sure what CPU is a good one now..lol.. I HATED the crash drivers in the sim races I was in, I loved it for SIM racing, not a crash up derby… Is this what you are talking about ? What is “Stream” ? Hope this Iracing is for real… help me decide on weather this is for me, a True Race Sim fan !… Michael Clemmer…

Michael Clemmer
April 11th, 2013 at 1:20 am

just because people use steam it doesnt mean they cant take their arcade hat off and put their sim hat on instead.ive used steam for a long time now mainly for my son to play his stuff but i usually run il2 cliffs of dover every now and then.Anything that brings more people on track is a positive for Iracing.more money=better service,simple.The wrong crowd are already there,here and everywhere which is why Iracings licensing sr/ir system sorts them out.The protest system is a powerful tool for getting rid of idiots and it works.Iracing do not worry about giving out bans.If you are the wrong crowd and you want to come and wreck races (ive only ever seen it once in a practice session) you seriously will not last long there.In fact if you do it from the start you wont ever get to race except in the rookie series.Yep you can run anything in a practice session but from what ive seen if you start messing around there you face action too so it really is a waste of time going in with a bad attitude im glad to say.There will be no problem going to steam…

April 13th, 2013 at 4:06 am

I had a bad experience buying a game, having to use Steam to get it, and then having to have a Microsoft account to use the game as well.
I do not like the idea of more than one company being responsible for a game to function. It’s too much bureaucracy. It’s more possibilities of things going wrong. It’s “contracting out” a task.

Jeff Heeney
April 13th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

@ Jeff
” It’s too much bureaucracy”
Please elaborate? I don’t understand how, or what bureaucracy has to do with anything, it won’t effect you in the slightest. All it does is open iracing up to a wider audience, which can only be a good thing.

Or some how you had a bad experience therefore the entire idea is invalid?! Seriously?

Or maybe the real reason is iRacing has a certain segment of it’s customer base who seem to be elitists?

My moneys on the latter to be honest, get a grip of yourself people.

Hugh Janus
April 16th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

I would just like to take a moment to point out something that I think a lot of people are missing. I played the original Nascar Games from Papyrus and my friends and I loved it. Let me tell you that I totally lost track of what happened and where the franchise went until the beginning of this year. It was purely accidental I found it. There needs to be more marketing visibility for this game as I would have probably come back to the franchise years ago. I’m getting my sim rig ready, ordered a wheel and pedals and plan on having a nice long racing career. I have a steam account as well and with that platform it would have reached me much much sooner. Not only should they reach out to Steam, but they need to reach out to other forms of marketing as well.

Sean Geiger
April 18th, 2013 at 11:40 am

hi im new to iracing and yes i start out as a rookie i do understand how frustration it can be for the really good drivers out there racing, but as for myself im learning how to become a good driver on the way ever since i have been on iracing now for less then a month i am becoming better each time so thank you to iracing for giving the new iracers such as myself to have the opportunity to get the feel what its like to be behind the wheel and race against other good drivers out there. everyone makes mistakes but we learn from them and thats what makes everyone better later on down the track.

Mark Howe
April 19th, 2013 at 5:08 am

Interestng comments. I am a gamepad user for many reasons, one of which is being legally blind. Wheels and pedals keep me too far from the monitor. Years ago I did have an old MS-Sidewinder wheel. I liked it, and loved the force feedback. But it was harder to see. …even with a larger monitor because I was simply too far away. There are other reasons I use a gamepad as well but will not discuss those here.

I was seriously considering Iracing to try and find a place to structure my racing. Other leagues I’ve found never race at times that I’m available. With a wife, family, and work, it’s always an issue. Most of them start a bit too early for me. So I’m thinking with Iracing I can log on anytime and maybe have an opportunity to race.

However, after the comments about “the wrong type of people”. I’m not so sure if this is something I want to do. I enjoy clean racing, want realism of the software product, and am a true fan of racing. I have no desire to crash out of races or cause others to do that. But I don’t have the control devices others use. Surely that not only would put me at a disadvantage speedwise. But if anything happens it’ll either be blamed on my control setup, or maybe even because I’m legally blind.

Michael St.Julien
April 20th, 2013 at 9:05 am

I can easily explain the comment “wrong kid of racer” or whatever it was. WE are SIM racers. They play VIDEO GAMES. There is a reason most of us came here and that is to run as close to the real thing as possible, that includes the other drivers. When I first came here I was in awe… finally a place for SIM racers built by other SIM racers… Now the comment about how the majority of people on here are not that good, that is simply because iRacing started allowing people to use game pads, touch pads, and mouse driving. Sure that allows more people to have fun, but does spoil it to a degree for the folks who are SIM racers and have had their wheel for years already. Now if the furthur we get from simulating everything brings in bad driving, Im afraid video gamers will think this is just another game and be spoiling alot of fun before they eventually quit leaving damaged saftey rating in their wake. Bottom line is I want iRacing to get more money with out having to jack up my costs, so sure let the kids in. BUT serisouly consider having a special starter league for them or something! I am the kind of driver who came here to follow the code, drive hard, and not mess up infront of everyone. I think that style of thinking we be diluted.

Aaron Hillibush
April 22nd, 2013 at 12:31 am

Well, I guess the bottom line is that everyone is a paying customer. The goal is to have fun doing something we enjoy. I may just give this a shot after all.

Michael St.Julien
April 23rd, 2013 at 7:11 pm

Elitism doesn’t even cover it with some of these comments. I’m using a xbox 360 controller, that’s right, a GAMEPAD! You don’t like it then leave, I’m here to race not not listen to some jerk gripe about gamepads and what direction Iracing is going. You people need to get over yourselves.

Ian Paxton
June 2nd, 2013 at 4:16 pm

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